The fact that I’m posting about it means that it probably isn’t really that easy, right? There are a few challenging pieces of the puzzle that all need to come together to get C4R or Collaboration for Revit working on a real project. I just went through this process with a mechanical firm so it is all pretty fresh in my mind.

Firstly, note that A360 Team has been rebranded as BIM 360 Team and will be migrated, more details at this post.

Secondly, Autodesk really wants your whole team (like everyone, every consultant, every Revit link) on Collaboration for Revit. However, out in the real world it is just happening bit-by-bit, and in the meantime some hacks and workarounds can make the process a little bit easier.

A Quick Overview
Ok, so Collaboration for Revit runs on top of BIM 360 Team. What this means is that you need to have an active BIM 360 Team license if you wish to run projects. Then, you need a Collaboration for Revit license for each Revit user who will be connecting to that BIM 360 Team site. You still with me? This also means that persons outside of your firm may connect to your projects, provided they have their own Collaboration for Revit entitlement applied to their Autodesk account.

Once you have the BIM 360 Team license, and the Collaboration for Revit licenses, you then need to “Assign” the Collaboration for Revit licenses out to the users (using their Autodesk login details).

Finally, you need to actually do some stuff, like:

  • make a BIM 360 Team project,
  • invite the users,
  • initiate Revit models, and
  • get the links working.

Its a lot to take in, so you can see that the blog title is actually a half-joke 🙂 However, we were able to get all this up and running in about 4 hours for one firm, so you can too. Hopefully.

Something that will help
Given that there are a lot of moving pieces, I turned to my favourite research and documentation tool, OneNote. I have created a public notebook that you can view at this link:
Revit Collaboration Public Help

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Basically all of the steps involved in getting the licensing setup, inviting users, installing the addin, and initiating models onto Collaboration for Revit are in the notebook linked above. I will continue to update and add to this over time.

Any Questions?
Just comment to this post and I will endeavour to answer your question in the notebook, or point you toward the answer.

Now, here are a few other bits and pieces that may be useful, if the notebook doesn’t answer your questions…

new help documentation:
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/ENU/Revit-CAR/files/GUID-5A7EA270-AE79-447B-B12C-4C6B59D2F894-htm.html

moving models to folders:
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Collaboration-for-Revit-How-to-use-and-access-subfolders-on-A360-Team.html

You can move projects from A360 Free to a paid BIM360 Team hub by using the Transfer function:

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Taking models offline and replacing later:
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/a360-collaboration-for-revit/learn-explore/caas/simplecontent/content/how-to-work-c4r-when-others-are-not-using-it.html

using local linked files
http://www.revitforum.org/worksharing-revit-server-c4r/28351-c4r-updating-links-6.html

Download links:
Collaboration for Revit 2017
Collaboration for Revit 2016

Collaboration for Revit 2015

Recent chat with Autodesk

When it comes time to install a new suite, you may feel like removing an older version. In my case, I wanted to remove an entire 2015 suite from my Surface Pro 3. What is the quickest way to do this?

Well, you can do it almost completely unattended with the Autodesk Uninstall Tool, which should already be installed on your system. Its in the Start Menu under Autodesk…

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Just tick the boxes and click Uninstall. It will tick away and let you know how many products have been uninstalled. Nice and easy…

The tool is located at:
C:Program Files (x86)Common FilesAutodesk SharedUninstall ToolR1UninstallTool.exe

For clean uninstall tips, also check out:

Autodesk Screencast is a great screen recording tool. However, it is very tied to the cloud. What if you just want to grab the screen capture video file to put it onto your company LAN or insert it into a presentation?

The short story:

  1. Set the Screencast folder location
  2. Setup a RealTimeSync to a ‘Screencast backup‘ folder
  3. Run the RealTimeSync on startup
  4. When you want the source video file, navigate into the backup folder, find the Screencast you want and look for a package.zip. Inside here is the webm file you can copy out and play with VLC or some other player.

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You could also use a video converter to convert the webm file to an mp4 or some other format that you could embed into PowerPoint etc.

Some related, uh, Screencasts:

Getting the WEBM files

Setting up the Syncs

These are simply direct links to be able to access the trial download for 2017 Autodesk AEC products, you will still need valid serial numbers if you wish to activate.

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You will be interested to note that on first launch, this splash screen may pop up:

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Live links:
Revit 2017 Part 1 | Part 2


Not yet live:
Revit LT 2017 Part 1 | Part 2
Revit Architecture 2017 Part 1 | Part 2
Revit Structure 2017 Part 1 | Part 2
Revit MEP 2017 Part 1 | Part 2


Building Design Suite Ultimate 2017
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSADV/DLM/BDSU_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_001_007.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSADV/DLM/BDSU_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_002_007.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSADV/DLM/BDSU_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_003_007.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSADV/DLM/BDSU_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_004_007.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSADV/DLM/BDSU_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_005_007.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSADV/DLM/BDSU_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_006_007.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSADV/DLM/BDSU_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_007_007.sfx.exe

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Building Design Suite Premium 2017
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSPRM/DLM/BDSP_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_001_006.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSPRM/DLM/BDSP_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_002_006.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSPRM/DLM/BDSP_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_003_006.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSPRM/DLM/BDSP_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_004_006.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSPRM/DLM/BDSP_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_005_006.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BDSPRM/DLM/BDSP_2017_Enu_Win_64bit_dlm_006_006.sfx.exe

Navisworks Manage 2017
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/NAVMAN/DLM/Autodesk_Navisworks_Manage_2017_Multilingual_Win_64bit_dlm_001_002.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/NAVMAN/DLM/Autodesk_Navisworks_Manage_2017_Multilingual_Win_64bit_dlm_002_002.sfx.exe

Navisworks Simulate 2017
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/NAVSIM/DLM/Autodesk_Navisworks_Simulate_2017_Multilingual_Win_64bit_dlm_001_002.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/NAVSIM/DLM/Autodesk_Navisworks_Simulate_2017_Multilingual_Win_64bit_dlm_002_002.sfx.exe

Advance Steel 2017
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/ADSTPR/DLM/ADSTPR_2017_ML_WIN_64BIT_DLM.sfx.exe

AutoCAD 2017
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/ACD/DLM/AutoCAD_2017_English_Win_32bit_dlm.sfx.exe

http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/ACD/DLM/AutoCAD_2017_English_Win_64bit_dlm_001_002.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/ACD/DLM/AutoCAD_2017_English_Win_64bit_dlm_002_002.sfx.exe

AutoCAD MEP 2017
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BLDSYS/DLM/AutoCAD_MEP_2017_English_Win_32bit_dlm_001_003.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BLDSYS/DLM/AutoCAD_MEP_2017_English_Win_32bit_dlm_002_003.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BLDSYS/DLM/AutoCAD_MEP_2017_English_Win_32bit_dlm_003_003.sfx.exe

http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BLDSYS/DLM/AutoCAD_MEP_2017_English_Win_64bit_dlm_001_003.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BLDSYS/DLM/AutoCAD_MEP_2017_English_Win_64bit_dlm_002_003.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/BLDSYS/DLM/AutoCAD_MEP_2017_English_Win_64bit_dlm_003_003.sfx.exe

AutoCAD Design Suite Ultimate 2017
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/DSADV/DLM/ADS_Ultimate_2017_English_Win_32bit_dlm_001_002.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/DSADV/DLM/ADS_Ultimate_2017_English_Win_32bit_dlm_002_002.sfx.exe

http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/DSADV/DLM/ADS_Ultimate_2017_English_Win_64bit_dlm_001_004.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/DSADV/DLM/ADS_Ultimate_2017_English_Win_64bit_dlm_002_004.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/DSADV/DLM/ADS_Ultimate_2017_English_Win_64bit_dlm_003_004.sfx.exe
http://trial2.autodesk.com/NET17SWDLD/2017/DSADV/DLM/ADS_Ultimate_2017_English_Win_64bit_dlm_004_004.sfx.exe

Sometimes in Glue addin for Revit will fail with the message One or more gluing errors occurred“.

You may be able to workaround this problem by following these steps:

  1. After receiving the error, immediately browse to your Temp directory. To do this, open Windows Explorer and type %TEMP% in the address bar.
  2. Sort by Date Modified
  3. Look for a DWF or NWC that matches the View Name that failed to Glue in Revit
  4. Grab that file, and remove the suffix (usually a few digits) so that the DWF Filename = View Name = Glue Model name
  5. Using the Glue desktop app, upload that model manually
Renamed model ready for upload

This process opens up an interesting possibility… usually when exporting a DWF using plain Revit, it will always use Project Internal coordinates. However, the Glue addin can actually export DWFs with Shared Coordinates (if you choose that in the Glue export More Options dialog).

Using the above steps 1-5, you can ‘find’ this DWF with Shared Coordinates and use it wherever you please… such as in Navisworks.

I have posted many times over the past few years about Project Skyscraper, which then became Collaboration for Revit (C4R). Having used the cloud service in beta, I was keen to get it going on some live projects. Unfortunately, Collaboration for Revit was only available in the USA…

Until now, that is! Check out this press release for details on the global launch. Quote:
Released and available in North America only since December 7, 2014, Collaboration for Revit will be available for commercial global use as of January 7, 2016.  

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Autodesk A360 Collaboration for Revit is a service that works with Revit software to connect project teams with centralized access to BIM project data in the cloud.  Image courtesy of Autodesk

I, for one, am very excited about this. I have been involved in at least one geographically distributed vanilla Revit Server setup, and I think that the necessity to have ‘my IT people talk to your IT people to set up a DMZ between our VPNs’ is a bit counter-productive. In these situations, the global availability of C4R will really shine. Now, firms will be able to spin up a C4R instance very quickly and get working together, on real projects and in real-time.

You can hear Ralph Bond interviewing Sylvia Knauer on the Autodesk AEC Channel Podcast here in this mp3.

Between this global launch of Collaboration for Revit, and the improvements in the Glue – Navisworks connection in 2016 products, my Federated Model Streamer concept is one step closer to reality 🙂

BIM360 Docs site is now live at:
http://bim360.com/docs/

Previously known as Project Alexandria, the official media release can be read here. And the ‘announcement’ video can be viewed here:
https://bim360.wistia.com/medias/nr7oymwogp

Interestingly, there is some talk of a completely free offering, after the free preview:
Autodesk is now accepting reservations for a limited release and free preview version of Autodesk BIM 360 Docs at www.bim360.com/docs. The product is expected to come to market in early 2016. In addition to the free, limited version of BIM 360 Docs, Autodesk will offer the option to subscribe to additional capabilities that scale to meet more advanced needs of construction firms. The product will initially be available in English only. 

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Click Reserve your spot here and then fill out the form if you want to get access to the Preview:

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Details:

  • Publish and manage all project document file types in a single system with support for unlimited users and unlimited storage.
  • Maintain control and secure project data with folder-level, permission-based access.
  • Easily extract and organize individual project documents from multi-sheet files & 3D models, featuring title block OCR for organization.
  • Ensure that the entire project team is working with the correct documents with version control and online/offline access on mobile devices.
  • View 2D PDF drawings with optimized zoom capabilities to quickly review details.
    Create and share markups for collaborative design reviews with the team.
  • View and navigate 3D models, access object properties, use sectioning tools and explore models with gravity-based walk throughs.
  • Quickly navigate between 2D plans and 3D models on any device, without having to close the viewer.

Imagery:

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Logos:

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